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Vintage tires on mag wheels?
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baclay9 Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2009 Posts: 88
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Posted: August 13, 2009, 11:05 pm Post subject: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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All of the vintage looking tires I find require tubes. I am guessing because most people run them on spoke wheels. I am going to keep my aluminum wheels on my 79 and was wondering if I can run tubes with mag wheels or am I out of luck.
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sure Full Member
Joined: May 07, 2008 Posts: 195
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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you can run them on mags...
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xsleo Full Member
Joined: Oct 28, 2007 Posts: 1528 Location: Earlville NY
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 4:13 am Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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Some of the mags used tubes. The wheel will have for tubeless tire stamped into one of the spokes of the wheel. If it doesn't say it's a tubeless wheel you should run a tube.
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baclay9 Full Member
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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It does say tubeless tires. I just want to run tube tires because nobody seems to make vintage looking tires that are tubeless. Just wanted to make sure it was ok to run tubes on mag wheels.
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oldbikenut Full Member
Joined: Feb 03, 2009 Posts: 367 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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On my 78 my mags did not say tubeless so I put tubes in even though I used tubeless tires(bias), I've heard of people not liking that but so far so good.
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jerseyjew Full Member
Joined: Mar 28, 2008 Posts: 48
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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My 78 mags are not stamped "tubeless" so I am running tubes. It is always safe to run a tube or no tube in a tubeless rim, but never should you not run a tube in tubed rim.
Tubeless rim ='s tube or no tube
Tubed rim ='s tube
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baclay9 Full Member
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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Cool! Thats what I needed to know
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gordo 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Oct 09, 2008 Posts: 559 Location: CT.U.S.A.
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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baclay, the only problem with running a tube in a tubeless wheel is that air can get trapped between the tire and tube.
This is prevented by filling the tube without the valve core installed ( inside the tire & mounted, of course,)several time's, pushing the stem of the tube in to allow the trapped air to come out.
Then, you'll have to check the pressure for a couple of ride's, to be sure all the air came out.
We do this allot ,esp. with trailer tire's.
The air will eventually work it's way out, but you could end up with a really soft tire & not know about it until it's too late.
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yamaman Support Staff
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 1638 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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I see what your saying there Gordo, wouldn't that also be the case with the tube type mags?
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baclay9 Full Member
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Posted: August 14, 2009, 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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Good point. Does anyone know of any vintage looking tires that are tubeless? I am wanting to run a WW on the back and a BW on the front.
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Teebs Full Member
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Posted: August 15, 2009, 4:29 am Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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Avon makes the Gangster which has a more traditional tread, not totally vintage looking, but not a completely modern tread either. Pricey though.
There aren't that many vintage tread tires to choose from, and I doubt you're going to find one with a vintage tread that is tubeless, since most vintage style tires end up on old spokers that require tubes.
With that said, there are plenty of guys running tubed tires on tubeless rims. Yes, you have to work the air out, but it doesn't take that long before you're good to go, and carrying a bicycle pump for a while solves the soft tire problem.
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yamaman Support Staff
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 1638 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: August 15, 2009, 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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Was trying to find a bit more info on this & found this site, doesn't go in to the questions asked here, but some good info all the same!
www.dunlopmotorcycle.c...retips.asp
www.dunlopmotorcycle.c...yreSafety/
www.totalmotorcycle.co...-tyres.htm
A lot of good reading in these sites! Interesting to note, while between these 3 sites, pretty much every eventuality is covered, the phenomenon of air being trapped between the tube & tyre is not mentioned at all!
I would think that most of this air would be expelled prior to the bead seating! Happy to see any evidence otherwise though, cheers.
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gordonscott Full Member
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Posted: August 15, 2009, 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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I use them all the time no problem.
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gordonscott Full Member
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Posted: August 15, 2009, 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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I use them all the time no problem.
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baclay9 Full Member
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Posted: August 15, 2009, 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Vintage tires on mag wheels? |
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Now what tires are those gordonscott? Is that a shinko rear and firestone front? Who has the best prices?
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