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chilliwackwestie Full Member
Joined: Sep 26, 2008 Posts: 37
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 12:59 am Post subject: carbs 74 to 78 |
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Are the carbs on a 74 the same or different than the 78 carbs ? if so which one is better.
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 8:57 am Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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same basic carb, jetting differences and later carbs have the bar mounts acrossed the bottom to hold them in posistion better, most internal parts are listed as fitting 70-79,
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xs1961 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 23, 2007 Posts: 1808 Location: uk
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 9:20 am Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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Earlier the better as far as UK carbs are concerned... we got 38mm jobbies ,78 carbs shrunk to 34mm.
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 11:13 am Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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think we when to the 34's in 80 here in the states 61, but they always did like us better except for xsjohn, they knew he was going to get a 80 so they switched
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xs1961 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 23, 2007 Posts: 1808 Location: uk
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 11:21 am Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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..Actually youre right, 80 it was... ..
something to do with US emissions/fuel saving ?
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 11:42 am Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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yes our beloved EPA (Enviromental Protection Agency) you can bulldoze the top of a mountain to dig coal but by god your not going to run your engine rich enough to not burn up!
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 11:51 am Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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You knew I couldn't resist....
Yea……was a Gov’t emissions problem not a carb problem………BS34 basic design was good until the Gov't decided to tkune carbs…...when I first got my 80 it got 55-56 to the gallon…..was so lean I don’t know how it kept from seizing…couldn't ride it anywhere…now it runs perfect and a lot richer and still gets 55-56 to the gallon…..have to wonder what the heck they were thinking……the electronic ignitions were also a bit advanced to keep with emissions standards…..add them both together and it was a total disaster…….fix the problems and you are on your way…and riders and even most so called mechanics couldn’t figure how to straighten this out so a poor reputation developed……nothing has really changed there as I can see……..
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Retiredgentleman 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 2258 Location: Calgary, Alberta 1978 XS650 SE
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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chilli;
This is a very useful table, when you start looking at carb internals.
5twins gets credit for this table.
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weekendrider Support Staff
Joined: Apr 20, 2007 Posts: 1284 Location: SW MO 2x83SK 79F 78E
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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The '74 had dual throttle cables? 78 a single.
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xsleo Full Member
Joined: Oct 28, 2007 Posts: 1528 Location: Earlville NY
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Posted: April 12, 2009, 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: carbs 74 to 78 |
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They changed over to the single cable in 76. All the earlier models had dual cables.
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