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murph Full Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 58 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: January 24, 2009, 11:44 pm Post subject: my new xs400 |
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I feel like I've been away from this site for a long time.. almost a year. I'm glad to see so many more members I'm also looking forward for the spring and to start ridding daily.
Well, I just bought a 79 xs400 for my girlfriend the bike has only 2,760 miles on it and is in great condition, but the previous owner decided to cross thread in the left spark plug. I can't figure out why you wouldn't stop when the plug wouldn't just spin on but that's another story... I've been able to get it out but can't get a new one in there. I've tried for the last hour to set a new plug by going 1/16th of turn.. then off then + another 1/16th and repeat. It has been working but seems to be building up quite a bit of material on the the threads. does anyone have any ideas?
_________________ -1981 xs650h
-1980 xs650sg
1998 gsx-r 750:sold
1983 xs650sk:sold
1979 xs650f:parts
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: January 25, 2009, 12:05 am Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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chase it with a greased tap not a spark plug, even after that you may need to heli-coil it or a insert, once those threads are boogered up I wouldn't trust them
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kzxs Full Member
Joined: May 08, 2008 Posts: 22 Location: OKC
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Posted: January 25, 2009, 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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You have to be careful not to get any shavings in the motor, but I agree with tapping and helicoiling. We use an air powered vacuum to suck the shavings out of the cylinder.
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98 YZF 600R
81 XS 400 (NEW Project)
83 KZ 750 Ltd
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murph Full Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 58 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: January 26, 2009, 1:54 am Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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What size tap should I use? I used a 13/16" socket to get the plug out.
_________________ -1981 xs650h
-1980 xs650sg
1998 gsx-r 750:sold
1983 xs650sk:sold
1979 xs650f:parts
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murph Full Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 58 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: January 26, 2009, 2:19 am Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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would this work? www.amazon.com/Tools-3...75&sr=8-11
_________________ -1981 xs650h
-1980 xs650sg
1998 gsx-r 750:sold
1983 xs650sk:sold
1979 xs650f:parts
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kzxs Full Member
Joined: May 08, 2008 Posts: 22 Location: OKC
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Posted: January 26, 2009, 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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It might, you would have to be careful not to make the threads worse. As longs as the thread is the same size and pitch, the tap should work. I would make sure that t it sealed completely with the plug in. If the threads are bad then it may become stripped out and then it would be hard to remove and may cause a loss in compression (I think...) I would use something like Helicoil Spark Plug Thread Repair Kit Make sure to get the shavings out.
aybe an aluminium magnet!
Seriously..Good luck
_________________ I hope you're mechanically inclined...
98 YZF 600R
81 XS 400 (NEW Project)
83 KZ 750 Ltd
83 XS 400 Seca |
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murph Full Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 58 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: January 26, 2009, 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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I found this one on amazon [url=http://www.amazon.com/Helicoil-5334-14-Thread-Thread-Repair/dp/B0002SRF4O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1233015923&sr=8-2 ]helicoil amazon[/url]
Thanks for the help. I hope the shopvac will be able to get the shavings out.
I'll put some pics up of my progress.
_________________ -1981 xs650h
-1980 xs650sg
1998 gsx-r 750:sold
1983 xs650sk:sold
1979 xs650f:parts
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: January 26, 2009, 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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just set your engine so the exhaust valve is open on that side when you retap the plug hole, then you can use compressed air to blow out any chips, however if you grease the tap that will get almost all of the chips, the only thing wrong with not heli-coiling the head is the threads are going to be weaker from the removed material just be careful cranking your plug in don't over-tighten them, I've seen plugs blow right out of a head before from worn/stripped threads
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murph Full Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 58 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: January 26, 2009, 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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that's a great idea about the open exhaust. And I'll definitely be using grease.
_________________ -1981 xs650h
-1980 xs650sg
1998 gsx-r 750:sold
1983 xs650sk:sold
1979 xs650f:parts
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Retiredgentleman 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 2258 Location: Calgary, Alberta 1978 XS650 SE
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Posted: January 26, 2009, 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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jayel's idea to have the exhaust valve open should be a good way to go. If you had a shop vacuum, you could attach the vacuum hose to the exhaust pipe and plug the other exhaust to prevent pulling through the cross-over pipe.
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batman911 Full Member
Joined: Jan 13, 2009 Posts: 60 Location: 1979 xs400
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Posted: January 27, 2009, 12:10 am Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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These are all real good bits of advice... Make sure once you get your threads repaired that you use anti-seize on the threads of the spark plug before you put it in.
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murph Full Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2007 Posts: 58 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: January 27, 2009, 4:08 am Post subject: Re: my new xs400 |
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I take care of my bikes, they get anti-seize; I just wish I had pulled the plugs before I bought the bike.
I'm going to order the Heli-coil kit tomorrow.
_________________ -1981 xs650h
-1980 xs650sg
1998 gsx-r 750:sold
1983 xs650sk:sold
1979 xs650f:parts
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