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LED turn signals all flashing at once!
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ann0yed New Member
Joined: Aug 31, 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: September 28, 2009, 8:52 pm Post subject: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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So I installed LED turn signals. I got an LED Flasher to replace the stock thermal flasher. It has three pins on it, one is a ground, one goes to the switch (brown/white) and the other is for power (brown). When all plugged in according to the diagram, the result is all turn signals flashing at once. The yellow/green wire (which I believe is for the automatic cancelling unit) is not plugged into anything. I've attached the wiring diagram for the LED flasher unit and my best guesses as to which wires go where.
Any thoughts on the matter? Your help is greatly appreciated!
-j
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pumps 650Rider Supporter
Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 1993 Location: Kansas City, Missouri, U.S.A.- 1977 XS650 "D" Standard
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Posted: September 28, 2009, 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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Not in front of me right now and I don't have LED signals but it seems I only have a two prong flasher unit. Removed the canceler unit.
What is the model of your bike. We could look at the wiring diagram.....
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despecial Full Member
Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 232 Location: D20000
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Posted: September 29, 2009, 1:38 am Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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green and brown misidentified?
crossed the blinker system with the light system?
use a load independent relay 1-100w
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ann0yed New Member
Joined: Aug 31, 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: September 29, 2009, 8:26 am Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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My bike is a 79 XS650 Special. I know I've gotten close because the flasher is working, the lights blink nice and brightly, and there is a clicking sound... Yet they are all blinking at once like hazard lights... Since I am just replacing the stock flasher, there aren't many wires to get confused. This appears to be the correct wiring. I read on a different bike forum that the indicator light on the instrument cluster might be the culprit, that the wire to the indicator light goes to both turn signals, bridging them, thus both sides blink at once? Just a thought.
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despecial Full Member
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Posted: September 29, 2009, 8:50 am Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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try inserting a diode in the line
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pumps 650Rider Supporter
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Posted: September 29, 2009, 9:16 am Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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Looking at a diagram seems like the only thing that would make ALL of them blink is some going on in the switch. Black to ground, looks like green/yellow stripe to the canceller, brown/white to power. That will always be the same, no left right on the flasher unit. Thats the right diagram?
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ann0yed New Member
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Posted: September 29, 2009, 11:16 am Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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Hey, pumps, you got a larger version of that wiring diagram? I love it, its in COLOR and its the correct one for my bike! Its clear that there is only one way to wire it at the flasher itself, so yes, the problem must lie elsewhere. I haven't crossed any wires, and my handlebar switch is brand new and worked fine with the original lights... so I guess the only thing to try next is disconnect the indicator light on the instrument cluster, see if that does anything...
despecial: thanks for the suggestion but I don't know what a diode is, what it does, where I'd get one or what line I'd put it on!
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pumps 650Rider Supporter
Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 1993 Location: Kansas City, Missouri, U.S.A.- 1977 XS650 "D" Standard
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Posted: September 29, 2009, 11:22 am Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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It is from the back of a Clymer. I can send it to you? Send me a PM and I'll get your email. I actually bought a large print color laminated diagram from a guy on ebay for my bike to help my old eyes .
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pamcopete 650Rider Supporter
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Posted: September 29, 2009, 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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ann0yed wrote: |
My bike is a 79 XS650 Special. I know I've gotten close because the flasher is working, the lights blink nice and brightly, and there is a clicking sound... Yet they are all blinking at once like hazard lights... Since I am just replacing the stock flasher, there aren't many wires to get confused. This appears to be the correct wiring. I read on a different bike forum that the indicator light on the instrument cluster might be the culprit, that the wire to the indicator light goes to both turn signals, bridging them, thus both sides blink at once? Just a thought.
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If you only have one indicator light on that bike, then that is the problem. Try disconnecting the indicator light.
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ann0yed New Member
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Posted: September 29, 2009, 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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Ok pamcopete, that is what I'm going to try as I believe it is just one light. I hope that's it!
-j
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ann0yed New Member
Joined: Aug 31, 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: October 1, 2009, 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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Fixed it! I simply removed the indicator bulb, DONE! Woo! Thank for your help everyone!
-j
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pumps 650Rider Supporter
Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 1993 Location: Kansas City, Missouri, U.S.A.- 1977 XS650 "D" Standard
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Posted: October 1, 2009, 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: LED turn signals all flashing at once! |
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Ok so why does it cause all the lights to flash though? Is it because the flasher unit is different or the signals? I mean the indicator bulb was "bridging" before ,yes? What component caused the condition?
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