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Abraxxas1127 Full Member
Joined: Jul 01, 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 10:18 am Post subject: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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I have new tires coming for my new project bike because the ones on it now are so dry-rotted that Im surpised they hold air, anyways you all know what you do with old tires before you take them off, I know what I do anyways Plus I see that for some reason there seems to be a shortage of XS burnout videos on youtube, burnouts are always fun!
Me on my XS
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nudude53 Full Member
Joined: Apr 24, 2009 Posts: 623 Location: Snow Camp, North Carolina
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 10:26 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Is there a purpose?
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Abraxxas1127 Full Member
Joined: Jul 01, 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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nudude53 wrote: |
Is there a purpose? |
Im doing my part to help save the environment, if I make sure all my tires are used up right to the cords before I take them off, there is less non-biodegradable waste in our dumps! I do my research
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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THe non welded pressed cranks don't like to be jarred to heavily......all it has to do is move a thousands or 2 and the crank will self destruct the bearings.....I wouldn't recommend it.......save that for the solid crank bikes..........
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Abraxxas1127 Full Member
Joined: Jul 01, 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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xsjohn wrote: |
THe non welded pressed cranks don't like to be jarred to heavily......all it has to do is move a thousands or 2 and the crank will self destruct the bearings.....I wouldn't recommend it.......save that for the solid crank bikes..........
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So these motors are at risk of throwing a bearing from a steady 1/4 throttle load at 4K-6Krpm? Perhaps I will choose a different bike to build if that is the case because that's about the same as my cruise down the freeway every morning...
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Don't take what I said to extreme.......Never said that...........but I wouldn't jar it like I didn't give a darn if it knocks the crankshaft runout off........or you might be fixing something...........common since is all I meant...burnouts might not be common sense with these....one way to find out .....
xsjohn
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scotts Full Member
Joined: Apr 03, 2007 Posts: 689 Location: Rock Hill, SC
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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nudude53 wrote: |
Is there a purpose? |
If you have to ask, you'll never know.
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nudude53 Full Member
Joined: Apr 24, 2009 Posts: 623 Location: Snow Camp, North Carolina
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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xsjohn wrote: |
...........common since is all I meant........
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I think you're barking up the wrong tree John
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Abraxxas1127 Full Member
Joined: Jul 01, 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Ah ok, I see you mean just to be careful... I was gonna say, its not getting any more jarred or loaded or beat while doing this than a normal ride Now if I were holding it wide open until it doesnt rev anymore the whole time... that would be different
Wow, tough crowd up in here!! LMAO!!
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Abraxxas1127 wrote: |
Now if I were holding it wide open until it doesnt rev anymore the whole time... that would be different |
yeah like doing tire burns seriously about the worst thing you can do to these ball bearing lower ends is lugging it down, it will pound the bearing races and make those nice round balls square and then they don't roll so well
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nudude53 Full Member
Joined: Apr 24, 2009 Posts: 623 Location: Snow Camp, North Carolina
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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scotts wrote: |
nudude53 wrote: |
Is there a purpose? |
If you have to ask, you'll never know. |
There are a few things that I really don't care to know about.
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Barbara Full Member
Joined: Feb 17, 2008 Posts: 812 Location: Washington State
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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You guys are starting to make me nervous. Lugging a sidecar around might not be the best thing for the old '77......but I never do burnouts with her. I save that for the BSA cafe bike. It's so light that I don't think it can hurt the engine.....(much).
One thing about having a long gravel driveway--I can play at burnouts and just spray gravel and not have to rub pavement.
_________________ Barb
Jaelith the XS650 with sidecar
Britney the BSA
Gemini the BSA
Baby B. the BSA
Big John the BSA
The unnamed Triumph T-140
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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as long as you have the revs up barb you'll be fine, I'm talking about the engine doing that herky-jerky lugging low rpm/to high of gear thing
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Abraxxas1127 Full Member
Joined: Jul 01, 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Barbara wrote: |
You guys are starting to make me nervous. Lugging a sidecar around might not be the best thing for the old '77......but I never do burnouts with her. I save that for the BSA cafe bike. It's so light that I don't think it can hurt the engine.....(much).
One thing about having a long gravel driveway--I can play at burnouts and just spray gravel and not have to rub pavement. |
I know!! All the talk in this thread about how putting a load on this engine will blow the bearings out kind of makes one wonder how it could've been so popular in the racing world for so many years
Oh well, I guess I like to "live on the edge"
And jayel, perhaps I will clarify, the bike was in 1st gear the whole time... basically no load at all with around 1/4 throttle to maintain the tire spin. I believe most people leave a stop sign more abruptly than that.
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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I was laughing at/with the full throttle running knocking out the lower end, these things will turn rpms a whole lot better than chugging around as far as damaging the engine
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gordonscott Full Member
Joined: May 06, 2009 Posts: 304
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Barb, where do you shift at with the sidecar (rpm)? give or take.
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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yeah but you're not trying to pull 5th gear at 1500rpm either are you?
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easytravel Full Member
Joined: Aug 27, 2008 Posts: 73 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Abraxxas, Dude...do you get the feeling you're being chastised? Tough crowd is right. All your weight on the front, 1st gear, bald tire....seems to me it should be recommended activity for cleaning the plugs!
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xs1961 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 23, 2007 Posts: 1808 Location: uk
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Actually , I'm quite impressed ,not only with the quality of the feet-up burn-out but the fact that Ive never seen it done on an XS before..Nice one !
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Toecutter Full Member
Joined: Mar 28, 2009 Posts: 22 Location: Shreveport,La.
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Abraxxas1127 wrote: |
I have new tires coming for my new project bike because the ones on it now are so dry-rotted that Im surpised they hold air, anyways you all know what you do with old tires before you take them off, I know what I do anyways Plus I see that for some reason there seems to be a shortage of XS burnout videos on youtube, burnouts are always fun!
Me on my XS | THAT WAS AWESOME!!! you got some good skills man!!!! and as far all the you will tear it up talk......WHO CARES!!!.....it can be repaired!..it's a MACHINE.....you can make it into what ever you want it to be...... TEAR IT UP!! and rebuild it back into something else......
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c1skout Full Member
Joined: Sep 10, 2008 Posts: 29
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Posted: July 2, 2009, 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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Abraxxas, That was an impressive show of bike control. When you said burnout I was picturing you sitting in one place holding the front brake and just smoking the rear tire. Tire spinning donuts are a whole differrent ball of wax!
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Barbara Full Member
Joined: Feb 17, 2008 Posts: 812 Location: Washington State
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Posted: July 3, 2009, 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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gordonscott wrote: |
Barb, where do you shift at with the sidecar (rpm)? give or take. |
Ummm (blushing) it is "true confession" time: one of the sidecar mounting brackets interferes with the tach drive, so I blocked it and have been running without a tach for about a year. I've been meaning to modify it (again) and since the engine is out, it's a good time.....
I try not to lug the engine, and keep it under 70 mph in 5th. so it's not working too hard. I hope. (The gearing is stock)
_________________ Barb
Jaelith the XS650 with sidecar
Britney the BSA
Gemini the BSA
Baby B. the BSA
Big John the BSA
The unnamed Triumph T-140
and the 1979 XS650....with "potential"
illie the 1980 airhead BMW |
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cpt137 Full Member
Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Posts: 97
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Posted: July 3, 2009, 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Anybody here like burnouts?? |
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My son bought magna with new avon venoms. 126 mile and picked up a nail. Put in some liquid sealer and went out on a back road. His first burnout. When he pulled in the garage his tire went flat. Am I a bad dad? I got to admit that Magna is a pretty nice bike for the money.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B9c-qKy9aI
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