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Finally got this thing running how it should.
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oldskoolcool Full Member
Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 372
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 7:44 pm Post subject: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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as mine ran like garbage when i first got it before i rebuilt it ...Figured this winter i would take some time to get er running tip top. SO, adjusted the shifter yesterday while the basket was out then new clutch plates. Then lowerd my needles back down to the middle position + borrowed a vacuum guage to sync the carbs. What a little powerhouse this paralell twin is. Even with my tiny back sprocket it just took off like mad. Even my friend said it sounded reallly healthy. must have been way to rich with my needles up 1. tons of midrange power now. Even holds a nice steady idle. Managed to get my timing right on too!
Really really enjoy these motors. I hope my cb500/4 brings as much joy.
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xs1961 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 23, 2007 Posts: 1808 Location: uk
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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It wont....
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2.5 bikes in bits,
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oldskoolcool Full Member
Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 372
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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thats why i have been looking for another XS!
I also fixed some oil leaks too, no more leaky latowski.
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Retiredgentleman 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 2258 Location: Calgary, Alberta 1978 XS650 SE
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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I doubt that a vacuum gauge is accurate enough to sync carbs. You can make up a simple "u-tube manometer" out of clear plastic tubing. Its cheap and its very accurate.
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jdallen Full Member
Joined: Jul 14, 2008 Posts: 179 Location: Asheville, NC
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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I've got the stuff to do that right now. What fluid do you use in the tube? I've got 14 ft of tubing, I'm pretty confident I can kill the engine before fluid get's sucked in. also, if the fluid get's sucked up higher on one side, which way would you want to turn the center sync screw??
by the way, congrats on getting your bike running good. these little bikes are bad ass aren't they? I've looked and looked and looked and I can't find a new bike I'd buy. I'd buy a new one if I could find one, but even a half tuned, hard to start xs650 kills the new bikes the manufacturers are offering. They may not be faster, but they're like a motorcycle should be.....know what I mean?
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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The right is controled by the nut in the center of the carbs...counter clockwise reduces the speed of the right and clockwise increases the speed of right....the speed of the left is controlled by the idol stop screw on the left........really only need one guage........
Check the vacuum on the left and note the measurment.....then adjust the vacuum on the right so it is the same as the left.....adjusting the nut in the center of the carbs.......
xsjohn
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Retiredgentleman 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 2258 Location: Calgary, Alberta 1978 XS650 SE
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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jdallen;
You can use any fluid you wish. I used "Sta-bil" , because I just happen to have some, and its engine friendly if it gets sucked in. Something that has some colour, just makes it easy to see...................automatic transmission fluid is often used.
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kenb Full Member
Joined: May 11, 2008 Posts: 119 Location: Flamborough, ON, Canada
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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jdallen wrote: |
What fluid do you use in the tube? |
Automatic tranny fluid is what everybody told me to use, the viscosity is about right for the job and the color is terrific for visibility.
I was also thinking that you might want more than 14 feet of tube for this. You'll need about 8 for the loop alone, and you'll want a good 6-8 feet on each side after that for the connections to the bike. That should give you enough tube to give you suffucent reaction time if the fluid takes off up one side or the other.
I also inserted an old pilot jet into the end of each tube for resrictors to slow the action down a bit.
Ken
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oldskoolcool Full Member
Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 372
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Posted: November 16, 2008, 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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i just did what john said, not rocket science...
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Jake68 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 841
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Posted: November 17, 2008, 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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kenb wrote: |
Automatic tranny fluid
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Hey man do you know what that stuff does to yer when you drink it LOL...(sorry carry on)
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Jake68 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 841
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Posted: November 17, 2008, 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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In all seriousness...Davida guages are very cheap in the UK...at least I think they are for what you get...
www.cwylde.co.uk/secti...f2e8f625a0
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Retiredgentleman 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 2258 Location: Calgary, Alberta 1978 XS650 SE
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Posted: November 17, 2008, 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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Jake;
If you want cheap..................plastic tubing is about $6.00, or 3.3 British Pounds.
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weekendrider Support Staff
Joined: Apr 20, 2007 Posts: 1284 Location: SW MO 2x83SK 79F 78E
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Posted: November 17, 2008, 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Finally got this thing running how it should. |
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Just make sure plastic tubing is petroleum compatible.
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