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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: May 24, 2009, 8:01 pm Post subject: the early years |
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don't laugh.......
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Teebs Full Member
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Posted: May 24, 2009, 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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lol... who's laughin'? Totally sweet bike... old Paul Sr. could really build 'em, couldn't he? He really is old school cool.
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Retiredgentleman 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 2258 Location: Calgary, Alberta 1978 XS650 SE
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Posted: May 24, 2009, 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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I like it! Was it a Yami or a Suzuki............maybe a Bridgestone?
If we're talking early years, here's a pic of a bike just like my first bike I had back in the mid 70's. 1967 Yami 305 scrambler.
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: May 24, 2009, 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Retiredgentleman wrote: |
I like it! Was it a Yami or a Suzuki............maybe a Bridgestone? |
1967 YAMAHA YL1 "Twinjet". 1966 to 1971, in a 90cc version for the home market and 100cc models for the US and Europe. The 100cc model was rated at 9.5 HP @ 8500 RPM.
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nudude53 Full Member
Joined: Apr 24, 2009 Posts: 623 Location: Snow Camp, North Carolina
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 10:47 am Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Ahhhhh, the Twin-jet 100. It was like jumping into a top-fuel dragster from a model "T" Ford. My nieghbor bought one to round up his cows with when he discovered we couldn't catch them with my step thru Honda 50. It was scary being able to hit 60 mph !!!
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roar Full Member
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 11:34 am Post subject: Re: the early years |
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No laughin' here, I love that old time stuff. Helping my brother right now breathe some life into one a few cc's lighter than RG's but of the same vintage.
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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started riding in the 60's watched all the biker movies that came out back then, we were on 50's, 90's, 100's a few 160's some of the crap we did to those poor bikes, reminds me of the chopper guys now :twisted:had to look like a chopper to be cool and run like a flat tracker while we were running trails and dirt
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Barbara Full Member
Joined: Feb 17, 2008 Posts: 812 Location: Washington State
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Hi Guys,
Love old bikes! Hey, Roar, is that a YDS-3? I put lots of miles on mine in the middle 1960's--like from Salt Lake city to Seattle to La and around the loop. Hot bike for those days---like 28 hp? Fast enough to embarrass a 305 Superhawk!
Cool old bikes, and while riding them around, I used to lust after a Bonneville or a Norton. *Real* bikers had those......
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Britney the BSA
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Teebs Full Member
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Jayel... love the joke... a little too subtle, maybe? lol
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Teebs wrote: |
Jayel... love the joke... a little too subtle, maybe? lol | subtle as a 4# sledge, no we got extended forks, flat seats, drilled bar stock to make hard tails all that silly stuff, great fun
to quiet on here needed to stir it up,
grandpa had a 55 gallon steel drum with a small outboard motor in it he'd fill it with water and a couple scoops of cow manure and start the motor, if you want to have fun you have to stir the s***
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Retiredgentleman 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 2258 Location: Calgary, Alberta 1978 XS650 SE
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Friend of mine had a 305 superhawk.................no match for my 305 Yami scrambler.
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nokitov Full Member
Joined: May 05, 2008 Posts: 100 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Bought a used 1969 tee frame Honda 125SS in 1970 with about 1000 miles. Ran it year round for 2 years and slowed down after I got married and got a Buick. Speedometer flipped back and forth all the time but it didn't matter. Didn't go real fast but once it got up to parkway speed it held 60 or 65 whatever everyone else was doing. Single carb was super easy to tune. Guessin' it had about 40k when I sold it in '73. Don't miss it at all but it did get 80mpg. 50-55 mpg on XS was much more fun til that guard rail came out of no where after a very hard night at the club.
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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the first bike I owned that had enough power to get out of its own way was a H_D 350 Sprint, got real good at riding wheelies on it, until I found out that after about 3 blocks the oil was all in the back of the engine and the oil pump was sucking air, nothing good comes out of that
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nokitov Full Member
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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I remember them. Had a great big tank, kind of like an Electra Glide and if I'm not mistaken, 1 cylinder just about horizontal? Wasn't it made in Italy by Benelli? Also, my best friend had a 250 Sears Pusch...2 cycle 2 cylinders in line , engine looked like an iron with cooling fins. Fenders were big fat things like a Glide or BMW. Came in black or black. But it could beat my 125 but not by much. Yeah, we were cool!
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pumps 650Rider Supporter
Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 1993 Location: Kansas City, Missouri, U.S.A.- 1977 XS650 "D" Standard
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Posted: May 25, 2009, 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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I remember the kzrider.com guys used to talk about a gate or flap type thing in the sump that would close to keep the oil from being forced to the back during acceleration.
jayel did you grenade the sprint motor?
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roar Full Member
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Posted: May 26, 2009, 8:31 am Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Very very close Barb, YDS3 tank on a YDS5 bike. Have to original tank too, but we kinda like this one. Hopefully have her runnin this weekend. Might be a bit longer on the driving though, wrong clutch plates came with the bike.
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
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Posted: May 26, 2009, 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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nokitov wrote: |
I remember them. Had a great big tank, kind of like an Electra Glide and if I'm not mistaken, 1 cylinder just about horizontal? Wasn't it made in Italy by Benelli? Also, my best friend had a 250 Sears Pusch...2 cycle 2 cylinders in line , engine looked like an iron with cooling fins. Fenders were big fat things like a Glide or BMW. Came in black or black. But it could beat my 125 but not by much. Yeah, we were cool! |
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jayel did you grenade the sprint motor? |
yes I did, in midair just bam it was done
nokitov the big tank models were C models the H model had a more normal tank, yes horizontal engine built by Aermacchi the airplane Co.
those Puch twins were called twingles a real piece of work rather interesting to read how they worked and the reasoning behind the design, worked well enough I guess
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nokitov Full Member
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Posted: May 26, 2009, 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Jayel, the thing that got me was that everything you read at that time said that twin cylinders had to have twin carbs and they did all the way down to the CB160's. Maybe there just wasn't enough room. 160's would pull away from me full throttle to full throttle but not by much. I'd race my buddies 160 or 250 Pusch but we'd time ourselves with a calendar. Thought I died and went to heaven when I bought my 650. Then another friend got an SS750 Honda, 4 pipes into one. Could not beat him from a dead stop but he didn't like to lean and I'd catch him at the first bend. He never complained about tingly hands, feet, or can on long rides. Hell you could set a glass of water on his tank at idle and even be able to see things in his mirror but it sounded like a car.
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
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Posted: May 26, 2009, 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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oh the honda dreams were single carbs, triumph and bsa both had single carb models but for performance dual carbs,hot cams, high comp. pistons and more $$$$ is usually the hot ticket, but that twingle design isn't really a true twin cylinder, one is smaller than the other it kind of pushed the fuel/air mix into the larger cylinder like I said it was a strange design
home.sprynet.com/~inniss/sears.htm
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Barbara Full Member
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Posted: May 26, 2009, 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Hi Guys,
y old CA-95 Honda had a single carb--and a hole burned in the seat that I "repaired" with a towel....and electric start that didn't, and a kick-start lever that fell off someplace in Oregon on a trip to Seattle......what a bike!
I remember being stopped (out of gas--again. I was always running out of gas) and going the other way was a new shiny blue Royal Star BSA, also with a single carb, but big and beautiful. The owner drew me off a bit of gas, and I was oogling his bike, and all he could say about it was that "it's brand new and the damned thing leaks oil!" I offered to trade. He laughed......
That's why I like old bikes. Simple, and easy to understand, even by the uninitiated. No computer chips--nothing except power and handling---more or less. (And the gas tank is where it is supposed to be, and it doesn't have a fairing that looks like it wants to plow the ground in front of the bike....)
I always wanted a big smooth R-69S BMW, too.......
I'm off to Montana for my Poppa's 90th Birthday. He talks about the "old days" of Indians and Harleys, before the "little British bikes were imported..." (Can it be we are all getting old? ......naw. No way!)
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Jaelith the XS650 with sidecar
Britney the BSA
Gemini the BSA
Baby B. the BSA
Big John the BSA
The unnamed Triumph T-140
and the 1979 XS650....with "potential"
illie the 1980 airhead BMW |
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nudude53 Full Member
Joined: Apr 24, 2009 Posts: 623 Location: Snow Camp, North Carolina
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Posted: May 26, 2009, 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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The most bullet proof bike ever made. If I couldn't kill it nobody could. I miss my baby, would like to have another one just to stare at.
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roar Full Member
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Posted: August 25, 2009, 8:29 am Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Sorry Barb, you were right. It is a yds3. It's also back on the road after a lil 20 year break. Couple issues yet, but pretty close to being done. (that's my baby brother in the pic by the way)
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Barbara Full Member
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Posted: August 25, 2009, 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Congratulations, Roar!
I'm so glad to see that one of the old beauties is back on the road where she belongs! One thing I noticed with mine--watch out for the crankcase seals. If they dry out and leak, running is out of the question until you tear down and replace them. Other than that, for a stroker, they are bullet-proof!
Way to go!!
_________________ Barb
Jaelith the XS650 with sidecar
Britney the BSA
Gemini the BSA
Baby B. the BSA
Big John the BSA
The unnamed Triumph T-140
and the 1979 XS650....with "potential"
illie the 1980 airhead BMW |
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nokitov Full Member
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Posted: August 25, 2009, 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: the early years |
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Hey barb or roar, what is that a yamaha 175? 250? the engine doesn't look as big as the bear cat scrambler. Does anything look like we used to see it? Looks nice though, have fun.
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